Until a few years ago, whenever I met a person who said he was a macro or a day trader, I immediately looked for a reason to end the conversation. I thought I had nothing in common with traders. After all, I was educated on the classic books of Graham and Lynch, who viewed a stock as a share in a business rather than a piece of paper whose prices goes up and down. Both were highly critical of market activity that was not classified as investing.
But not any more. These days I am quite happy to continue the conversation. Not because I am interested in their views on the future direction of the market. They have certain qualities that we, value investors, often lack and should try to learn.
Let me explain.
“The most realistic distinction between the investor and the speculator is found in their attitude toward stock-market movements. The speculator’s primary interest lies in anticipating and profiting from market fluctuations. The investor’s primary interest lies in acquiring and holding suitable securities at suitable prices.”
“It is easy for us to tell you not to speculate; the hard thing will be for you to follow this advice. Let us repeat what we said at the outset: If you want to speculate do so with your eyes open, knowing that you will probably lose money in the end…”
“Rule number one: Don’t lose money. Rule number two: Never forget the first rule.”
“If I think I can make 10x my money, that doesn’t make it my favourite investment. If I can invest a lot of money and I don’t see how I’m gonna lose anything and maybe make five or ten per cent, that might be a much better risk-reward for me. So typically, my largest positions have been the ones where I don’t think I can lose money.”
“The best investors do not target return; they focus first on risk, and only then decide whether the projected return justifies taking each particular risk.”
“The game I have always played with myself is [this]: look at the name, do you work, build up what you would buy that entire business for. 80-90% of the time, your estimate is within 20% of the actual market cap.”
“As I am talking, he [Soros] starts wincing like what is wrong with this kid. And I think he is about to blow away my thesis and he says, “That is the most ridiculous use of money management that I ever heard. What you described is an incredible one-way bet. We should have 200 per cent of our net worth in this trade, not 100 per cent. Do you know how often something like this comes around? Like one in 20 years. What is wrong with you?”.